Comments on: My Final Word on This Trivia http://www.tedstake.com/2008/03/30/my-final-word-on-this-trivia/ The Blogging Site of Ted Leonsis Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:26:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: The N.H.L. and the ‘New Mediocrity’ - Slap Shot Blog - NYTimes.com http://www.tedstake.com/2008/03/30/my-final-word-on-this-trivia/comment-page-1/#comment-18001 The N.H.L. and the ‘New Mediocrity’ - Slap Shot Blog - NYTimes.com Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:09:37 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2148#comment-18001 [...] And sure, it’s not the end of the world if owners like the Capitals’ Ted Leonsis seem genuinely confused about how well their teams are doing, or even if journalists forget what those three columns in the [...] [...] And sure, it’s not the end of the world if owners like the Capitals’ Ted Leonsis seem genuinely confused about how well their teams are doing, or even if journalists forget what those three columns in the [...]

]]> By: Mike http://www.tedstake.com/2008/03/30/my-final-word-on-this-trivia/comment-page-1/#comment-6684 Mike Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:43:58 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2148#comment-6684 Our ice is bad enough at the end of a regulation period. A 10-minute overtime would mean playing on really bad ice in our house and bad ice in other arenas. If you don't want the shootout, fine, drop the shootout. </p> <p> </p> <p>Go back to a game is three periods, sixty minutes, you win, lose, or tie. Two for the win, one for the tie, none for the loss. What difference does a 5 minute OT, a 10 minute OT, or a 5 minute OT w/ shootout really make? </p> <p> </p> <p>And why go to 4 on 4? None of the major sports (football, baseball, or basketball) take players off the field/court during overtime, so why does hockey? 4v4 is a different game, as is a shootout...why change to determine the outcome of a game? Our ice is bad enough at the end of a regulation period. A 10-minute overtime would mean playing on really bad ice in our house and bad ice in other arenas. If you don’t want the shootout, fine, drop the shootout.

Go back to a game is three periods, sixty minutes, you win, lose, or tie. Two for the win, one for the tie, none for the loss. What difference does a 5 minute OT, a 10 minute OT, or a 5 minute OT w/ shootout really make?

And why go to 4 on 4? None of the major sports (football, baseball, or basketball) take players off the field/court during overtime, so why does hockey? 4v4 is a different game, as is a shootout…why change to determine the outcome of a game?

]]> By: mark buttram http://www.tedstake.com/2008/03/30/my-final-word-on-this-trivia/comment-page-1/#comment-6683 mark buttram Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:27:11 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2148#comment-6683 quick follow up....why is it acceptable to have something given to both teams in hockey?? this is a joke. basketball, no ties...you play 3 ots and lose, oh well, play again the next night..you have 84 games...baseball, same deal, you get nothing for getting to the 15th inning and losing. even football, where you could justify giving something to a team for making it to OT employs a same format play as regulation where ties are extrememly rare. </p> <p> </p> <p>the fans that you tried to win back 4 years ago LOVE that they call more penalties, and that their is no 2 line pass, and delayed offsides. but we never asked for or wanted shootouts or 4 on 4 to decide key games..lets play 5 on 5 hockey till we have a winner or call it a tie after a 10 minute overtime.. </p> <p> </p> <p>this and these brawls nightly outside the goalie crease are the 2 big things that need to be fixed still. heaven forbid someone even breathe on another persons goalie. quick follow up….why is it acceptable to have something given to both teams in hockey?? this is a joke. basketball, no ties…you play 3 ots and lose, oh well, play again the next night..you have 84 games…baseball, same deal, you get nothing for getting to the 15th inning and losing. even football, where you could justify giving something to a team for making it to OT employs a same format play as regulation where ties are extrememly rare.

the fans that you tried to win back 4 years ago LOVE that they call more penalties, and that their is no 2 line pass, and delayed offsides. but we never asked for or wanted shootouts or 4 on 4 to decide key games..lets play 5 on 5 hockey till we have a winner or call it a tie after a 10 minute overtime..

this and these brawls nightly outside the goalie crease are the 2 big things that need to be fixed still. heaven forbid someone even breathe on another persons goalie.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.tedstake.com/2008/03/30/my-final-word-on-this-trivia/comment-page-1/#comment-6682 Anonymous Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:35:36 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2148#comment-6682 GET RID OF THE FREAKING SHOOT-OUT!!!!!!! GET RID OF THE FREAKING SHOOT-OUT!!!!!!!

]]> By: Rob Miller http://www.tedstake.com/2008/03/30/my-final-word-on-this-trivia/comment-page-1/#comment-6681 Rob Miller Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:16:01 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2148#comment-6681 Ted, </p> <p> </p> <p>I think a team should not receive the one point until they reach the shoot-out. If a team loses during the 5 minute overtime, they should get zip. This will affect the way they will need to play during the overtime. </p> <p> </p> <p>Obviously, the league awarded the one point to the losing team to help the weaker teams in the league. Clearly, this has worked since so few teams have low point numbers. I don't think this is bad for the league. </p> <p> </p> <p>Go Caps! Ted,

I think a team should not receive the one point until they reach the shoot-out. If a team loses during the 5 minute overtime, they should get zip. This will affect the way they will need to play during the overtime.

Obviously, the league awarded the one point to the losing team to help the weaker teams in the league. Clearly, this has worked since so few teams have low point numbers. I don’t think this is bad for the league.

Go Caps!

]]> By: CC Caps fan http://www.tedstake.com/2008/03/30/my-final-word-on-this-trivia/comment-page-1/#comment-6680 CC Caps fan Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:52:34 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2148#comment-6680 Perhaps the NHL should consider a 3 point system for all games. If you win in regulation you get three points. An OT or shootout win is 2 and an OT loss is 1. They might also consider having the OT go 10 minutes. 10 minutes of 4 on 4 seems highly likely to pretty much eliminate the shootout except on rare occasions. I think I heard Barry Melrose or Pierre McGuire make this suggestion on Versus. Perhaps the NHL should consider a 3 point system for all games. If you win in regulation you get three points. An OT or shootout win is 2 and an OT loss is 1. They might also consider having the OT go 10 minutes. 10 minutes of 4 on 4 seems highly likely to pretty much eliminate the shootout except on rare occasions. I think I heard Barry Melrose or Pierre McGuire make this suggestion on Versus.

]]> By: Wendy http://www.tedstake.com/2008/03/30/my-final-word-on-this-trivia/comment-page-1/#comment-6679 Wendy Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:51:28 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2148#comment-6679 Ted - No matter what happens at the end of the season, you and George McPhee have made moves that will impact the Caps for many seasons to come. </p> <p> </p> <p>- Trading Pettinger for Cooke (hope you can sign him). </p> <p> </p> <p>- Bringing up Laing (seeing Kozlov and others do the "Laing Dive" makes me warm and fuzzy). </p> <p> </p> <p>- Bringing in Federov (even if you don't resign him, he seems to have been invaluable to the team's development). </p> <p> </p> <p>- Replacing Hanlon with Boudreau ('nuff said). </p> <p> </p> <p>Thank you so much for making this one of the most entertaining seasons ever. Ted - No matter what happens at the end of the season, you and George McPhee have made moves that will impact the Caps for many seasons to come.

- Trading Pettinger for Cooke (hope you can sign him).

- Bringing up Laing (seeing Kozlov and others do the “Laing Dive” makes me warm and fuzzy).

- Bringing in Federov (even if you don’t resign him, he seems to have been invaluable to the team’s development).

- Replacing Hanlon with Boudreau (’nuff said).

Thank you so much for making this one of the most entertaining seasons ever.

]]> By: Some math guy http://www.tedstake.com/2008/03/30/my-final-word-on-this-trivia/comment-page-1/#comment-6678 Some math guy Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:39:16 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2148#comment-6678 But to be above average you need to add up every teams points at the end of the year and divide by 30. But to be above average you need to add up every teams points at the end of the year and divide by 30.

]]> By: mark buttram http://www.tedstake.com/2008/03/30/my-final-word-on-this-trivia/comment-page-1/#comment-6677 mark buttram Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:02:00 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2148#comment-6677 Lets invest some time at the owners meeting in really changing the point system. I have grown weary of these 3 pt games, and teams just rolling out a trap once the game is tied late in the second and playing to get at least one point.. </p> <p> </p> <p>NEW RULES: </p> <p> </p> <p>game finishes in regulation: </p> <p>2 pts to the winner </p> <p>0 to the loser </p> <p> </p> <p>game is tied after regulation: </p> <p> </p> <p>10 min 5 on 5 OT....odds are someone will be tired and someone will score. </p> <p> </p> <p>again, 2 pts to the winner </p> <p>0, NOT ONE, for the loser </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p>game is still tied after OT. </p> <p> </p> <p>either give both teams one point, or keep the shootout (which by the way is NOT a favorite of many TRUE HOCKEY PURISTS) and have 2 pts go to the winner of a shootout and one to the loser.. </p> <p> </p> <p>THERE SHOULD BE SOME DIFFERENCE IN POINTS WHEN YOU TRANSITION FROM OT TO A SHOOTOUT, JUST LIKE THERE IS A TRANSITION FROM REG TO OT. </p> <p> </p> <p>This way, if you need 2 pts really bad, you will stop sitting on your ass for 30 min of the game, waiting to just get one point...Trust me, it will make the sport much better... Lets invest some time at the owners meeting in really changing the point system. I have grown weary of these 3 pt games, and teams just rolling out a trap once the game is tied late in the second and playing to get at least one point..

NEW RULES:

game finishes in regulation:

2 pts to the winner

0 to the loser

game is tied after regulation:

10 min 5 on 5 OT….odds are someone will be tired and someone will score.

again, 2 pts to the winner

0, NOT ONE, for the loser

game is still tied after OT.

either give both teams one point, or keep the shootout (which by the way is NOT a favorite of many TRUE HOCKEY PURISTS) and have 2 pts go to the winner of a shootout and one to the loser..

THERE SHOULD BE SOME DIFFERENCE IN POINTS WHEN YOU TRANSITION FROM OT TO A SHOOTOUT, JUST LIKE THERE IS A TRANSITION FROM REG TO OT.

This way, if you need 2 pts really bad, you will stop sitting on your ass for 30 min of the game, waiting to just get one point…Trust me, it will make the sport much better…

]]> By: Mike L. http://www.tedstake.com/2008/03/30/my-final-word-on-this-trivia/comment-page-1/#comment-6676 Mike L. Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:08:30 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2148#comment-6676 Maybe it's time to pick up on what the IIHF is doing for games in the world championships (they did this last year for the first time). All games are worth 3 points. If you win outright you get 3, an OT/SO win is worth 2, an OT/SO loss is worth 1, and you get nothing for a regulation loss. At that point each game is worth the same, so it becomes a "zero-sum" game. </p> <p> </p> <p>The ideal set up is what they do in soccer, in that a winning team gets 3 points, and a tie gives one point to each team (yes, it means bringing back ties). What that would do is *really* motivate folks in OT, as if both teams don't score, everyone loses 2 points... and it would get rid of the shoot-out... Maybe it’s time to pick up on what the IIHF is doing for games in the world championships (they did this last year for the first time). All games are worth 3 points. If you win outright you get 3, an OT/SO win is worth 2, an OT/SO loss is worth 1, and you get nothing for a regulation loss. At that point each game is worth the same, so it becomes a “zero-sum” game.

The ideal set up is what they do in soccer, in that a winning team gets 3 points, and a tie gives one point to each team (yes, it means bringing back ties). What that would do is *really* motivate folks in OT, as if both teams don’t score, everyone loses 2 points… and it would get rid of the shoot-out…

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