Comments on: Dumb and Dumber http://www.tedstake.com/2008/08/14/dumb-and-dumber/ Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:26:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ned http://www.tedstake.com/2008/08/14/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-11694 ned Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:49:39 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2626#comment-11694 First, I've lived in south and north carolina all my life and I am a 'Caniac. And this summer has been killer waiting for the season to start. Second, Contraction isn't going to happen. The NHL will eventually expand to 32 teams. I think one in Las Vegas and another in eastern Canada (Hamilton or elsewhere). It's just the next logical growth step for the league. Third, if you wanted to see more of the skill pool, here's a thought: How about divisional All-star teams that play a cross-conference tournament. Or in exhibition games with the KHL or something. I think it'd be fun and we'd get to see some great hockey. First, I’ve lived in south and north carolina all my life and I am a ‘Caniac. And this summer has been killer waiting for the season to start.
Second, Contraction isn’t going to happen. The NHL will eventually expand to 32 teams. I think one in Las Vegas and another in eastern Canada (Hamilton or elsewhere). It’s just the next logical growth step for the league.
Third, if you wanted to see more of the skill pool, here’s a thought: How about divisional All-star teams that play a cross-conference tournament. Or in exhibition games with the KHL or something. I think it’d be fun and we’d get to see some great hockey.

]]> By: dave http://www.tedstake.com/2008/08/14/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-11693 dave Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:25:02 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2626#comment-11693 do you censor comments teddy do you censor comments teddy

]]> By: IanG http://www.tedstake.com/2008/08/14/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-11692 IanG Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:35:19 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2626#comment-11692 I agree with you in most part, Ted... except for the notion that somehow the rest of the world would suffer if 150 NHL players would suddenly be out of $2 million/year. That money would quickly find its way somewhere else... Trust me, we will all be fine if hockey players stop making big bucks. I agree with you in most part, Ted… except for the notion that somehow the rest of the world would suffer if 150 NHL players would suddenly be out of $2 million/year. That money would quickly find its way somewhere else… Trust me, we will all be fine if hockey players stop making big bucks.

]]> By: You Don't Mess With the Leonsis | Stet Sports Blog http://www.tedstake.com/2008/08/14/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-11691 You Don't Mess With the Leonsis | Stet Sports Blog Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:01:39 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2626#comment-11691 [...] So then, my boy and yours Washington Capitals owner Ted Leonsis responded with a genuine post politely calling him a dummy. [...] [...] So then, my boy and yours Washington Capitals owner Ted Leonsis responded with a genuine post politely calling him a dummy. [...]

]]> By: guidedbyvoices http://www.tedstake.com/2008/08/14/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-11690 guidedbyvoices Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:15:36 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2626#comment-11690 I hope Andre Roy never loses his place in the league. That guys is money. I hope Andre Roy never loses his place in the league. That guys is money.

]]> By: JimG http://www.tedstake.com/2008/08/14/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-11689 JimG Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:29:38 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2626#comment-11689 Using an absurd notion to try to goad a targeted reply out of an owner and painting it as a "challenge" is contemporary American journalism at its best. Mr. McKeon says himself that contraction is never going to happen regardless of how many people feel it should or shouldn't. And some of his opinions as to why contraction would make for a better league (stated as if they're facts only a silly person would disagree with) are as silly as any notions to the contrary... * Fewer teams/players will increase the talent level and give us a better show? No, because the increase would be relative. McKeon envisions a league where the goal lamp gets tired. I see a league where the defensive and goaltender talent increased right along with the offense, yielding virtually no change while driving team salaries up pretty dramatically. * The entire Southeast Division? Seriously? I get that it's supposed to be "tongue-and-cheek" ("tongue-in-cheek" would have worked better, especially for a professional editor), but eliminating hockey from an entire section of the country is just plain stupid. If he wants to present an absurd idea for serious consideration, he'd be best served painting it in the best light -- not in a way that defies logic. * 78 games meaningfully shortens a season? By how much? Less than 2 weeks in an 8- or 9-month season? Wow. Staggering. Let's set aside that a switch in season length tweaks the record books irrevocably and simply consider that this is a very small, meaningless amount of time in the grand scheme of things in the NHL. If he wants to talk about shorter seasons having a positive impact on a game, he should apply for a transfer to Yahoo's MLB section. * Bad ice in June? Look, it's as difficult to make ice in June in most places as it is to make ice ALL YEAR in some markets, which kind of makes his point moot. Of course, eliminating Tampa and Florida (Miami) would make it a slightly better argument, but temperature's an issue most of the season for more than a few teams. And again, 2 weeks isn't going to make a difference at all, regardless. His ideas are provocative, I'll give you that. They're also ill-considered, and watching him try to defend them intelligently is more entertaining than the actual content of his writing. But I hope he continues to enlighten us with unrealistic ideas... "The league should get smaller! Owners should just toss that $200 million for the Good of the Game!" Yeah, and there should be unicorns and pixies on the ice, too... Using an absurd notion to try to goad a targeted reply out of an owner and painting it as a “challenge” is contemporary American journalism at its best.

Mr. McKeon says himself that contraction is never going to happen regardless of how many people feel it should or shouldn’t. And some of his opinions as to why contraction would make for a better league (stated as if they’re facts only a silly person would disagree with) are as silly as any notions to the contrary…

* Fewer teams/players will increase the talent level and give us a better show? No, because the increase would be relative. McKeon envisions a league where the goal lamp gets tired. I see a league where the defensive and goaltender talent increased right along with the offense, yielding virtually no change while driving team salaries up pretty dramatically.

* The entire Southeast Division? Seriously? I get that it’s supposed to be “tongue-and-cheek” (“tongue-in-cheek” would have worked better, especially for a professional editor), but eliminating hockey from an entire section of the country is just plain stupid. If he wants to present an absurd idea for serious consideration, he’d be best served painting it in the best light — not in a way that defies logic.

* 78 games meaningfully shortens a season? By how much? Less than 2 weeks in an 8- or 9-month season? Wow. Staggering. Let’s set aside that a switch in season length tweaks the record books irrevocably and simply consider that this is a very small, meaningless amount of time in the grand scheme of things in the NHL. If he wants to talk about shorter seasons having a positive impact on a game, he should apply for a transfer to Yahoo’s MLB section.

* Bad ice in June? Look, it’s as difficult to make ice in June in most places as it is to make ice ALL YEAR in some markets, which kind of makes his point moot. Of course, eliminating Tampa and Florida (Miami) would make it a slightly better argument, but temperature’s an issue most of the season for more than a few teams. And again, 2 weeks isn’t going to make a difference at all, regardless.

His ideas are provocative, I’ll give you that. They’re also ill-considered, and watching him try to defend them intelligently is more entertaining than the actual content of his writing. But I hope he continues to enlighten us with unrealistic ideas… “The league should get smaller! Owners should just toss that $200 million for the Good of the Game!” Yeah, and there should be unicorns and pixies on the ice, too…

]]> By: MadFlava http://www.tedstake.com/2008/08/14/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-11688 MadFlava Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:13:45 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2626#comment-11688 I hope the players read this article and all other publish articles doubting the Capitals. Use as motivation to play hard and prove all the doubters wrong about hockey in Washington. This franchise has done an amazing job rebuilding and it's only going to get better with the number of prospects they have in the system. I hope the players read this article and all other publish articles doubting the Capitals. Use as motivation to play hard and prove all the doubters wrong about hockey in Washington. This franchise has done an amazing job rebuilding and it’s only going to get better with the number of prospects they have in the system.

]]> By: up north http://www.tedstake.com/2008/08/14/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-11687 up north Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:09:11 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2626#comment-11687 ya, pretty sure no one who's lived in florida their whole lives gives a crap about hockey. Ted, it really doesnt matter what stars play for these teams, because good players will have jobs. There are just too many teams who have zero fan base during the regular season and it's embarrassing. LA, Tampa, Florida, and Nashville (the franchises mind you, not the players) are really a joke. no amount of success is going to build them a fan base because unfortunately americans just wont cling to hockey. There's not enough time to eat, sorry, overeat, or get wasted during the action. I wouldn't have contracted washington, but please, hockey and dollywood in the same city? ya, pretty sure no one who’s lived in florida their whole lives gives a crap about hockey. Ted, it really doesnt matter what stars play for these teams, because good players will have jobs. There are just too many teams who have zero fan base during the regular season and it’s embarrassing. LA, Tampa, Florida, and Nashville (the franchises mind you, not the players) are really a joke. no amount of success is going to build them a fan base because unfortunately americans just wont cling to hockey. There’s not enough time to eat, sorry, overeat, or get wasted during the action. I wouldn’t have contracted washington, but please, hockey and dollywood in the same city?

]]> By: loupgarou http://www.tedstake.com/2008/08/14/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-11686 loupgarou Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:44:46 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2626#comment-11686 Well this is coming from a 'Caniac, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS! A owner who is not afraid to say what he thinks is always welcome......even if it is a division rival. (Sorry, just wait till we get ya on the ice!!) Well this is coming from a ‘Caniac, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS! A owner who is not afraid to say what he thinks is always welcome……even if it is a division rival. (Sorry, just wait till we get ya on the ice!!)

]]> By: ovspmike http://www.tedstake.com/2008/08/14/dumb-and-dumber/#comment-11685 ovspmike Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:15:32 +0000 http://www.tedstake.com/?p=2626#comment-11685 Whether you want to admit it or not, the talent pool is watered down. I agree that the league needs to contract. Figuring out how to do it fairly is the problem. Whether you want to admit it or not, the talent pool is watered down. I agree that the league needs to contract. Figuring out how to do it fairly is the problem.

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