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	<title>Comments on: Dumb and Dumber</title>
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		<title>By: acf</title>
		<link>http://www.tedstake.com/2009/07/01/dumb-and-dumber-2/comment-page-1/#comment-32149</link>
		<dc:creator>acf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 07:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ted, can I have his tickets?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted, can I have his tickets?</p>
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		<title>By: NL</title>
		<link>http://www.tedstake.com/2009/07/01/dumb-and-dumber-2/comment-page-1/#comment-32134</link>
		<dc:creator>NL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that there was a great deal of backlash over the removal of the ABH, but that was just the tip of the iceberg.  I think that the potential for things to blow up has been building for some time.  I have been a lurker on the Caps forum, posting when I felt the need to say something, but I have read through a great many complaints about trolls, virtually non-existent mods, and suspensions/bans over silly things.  Okay, so lately not all of the suspensions or bans could be seen as silly, but in the past they certainly seemed that way.

Tension and negative emotions have been simmering just below the surface and the removal of the ABH sections was just the powder keg that blew it all open.  Mismanagement of the boards by the mods and admins certainly helped to foment that because nobody could rely on them to actually do their jobs, and that was a general consensus that I got simply from being on the boards from October 2008.

And instead of things being resolved amicably there was no answer forthcoming from the powers that be.  This fosters more mistrust and spurs action, even inappropriate actions on both sides.  Needless to say things blew even further, and now the Caps forum is 'temporarily' offline.  There are even other things brewing in the background that make me wonder exactly what the heck is going on.  Makes me thankful that I don't have Ted friended on FB or anywhere else, for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that there was a great deal of backlash over the removal of the ABH, but that was just the tip of the iceberg.  I think that the potential for things to blow up has been building for some time.  I have been a lurker on the Caps forum, posting when I felt the need to say something, but I have read through a great many complaints about trolls, virtually non-existent mods, and suspensions/bans over silly things.  Okay, so lately not all of the suspensions or bans could be seen as silly, but in the past they certainly seemed that way.</p>
<p>Tension and negative emotions have been simmering just below the surface and the removal of the ABH sections was just the powder keg that blew it all open.  Mismanagement of the boards by the mods and admins certainly helped to foment that because nobody could rely on them to actually do their jobs, and that was a general consensus that I got simply from being on the boards from October 2008.</p>
<p>And instead of things being resolved amicably there was no answer forthcoming from the powers that be.  This fosters more mistrust and spurs action, even inappropriate actions on both sides.  Needless to say things blew even further, and now the Caps forum is &#8216;temporarily&#8217; offline.  There are even other things brewing in the background that make me wonder exactly what the heck is going on.  Makes me thankful that I don&#8217;t have Ted friended on FB or anywhere else, for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://www.tedstake.com/2009/07/01/dumb-and-dumber-2/comment-page-1/#comment-32130</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks like the whole board has been nuked now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like the whole board has been nuked now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cj</title>
		<link>http://www.tedstake.com/2009/07/01/dumb-and-dumber-2/comment-page-1/#comment-32111</link>
		<dc:creator>Cj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ted- while the comments were a little childish, I'm a bit sad that you didn't address the main issue- the poor performance, and poor experience of the web site.  You are a technical fore runner, and yet our website is from the dark ages, run by seeming bully moderators that live in their parents basement.  This is really surprising as you have improved every aspect of the Capitals experience EXCEPT the website.  I'm talking about the whole site now, not the meager message boards.  I have heard before that the NHL manages the sites, blah blah blah, but if you look at other teams sites, while they all have the same basic look, about 20 other teams have more streamlined and refined sites.  It's odd that someone from an internet background and is fan centered wouldn't see the value in making the web site- and the fan interactions- better.  As I said, people are usually childish in the way they present issues to you- but that does not mean an issue is make believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted- while the comments were a little childish, I&#8217;m a bit sad that you didn&#8217;t address the main issue- the poor performance, and poor experience of the web site.  You are a technical fore runner, and yet our website is from the dark ages, run by seeming bully moderators that live in their parents basement.  This is really surprising as you have improved every aspect of the Capitals experience EXCEPT the website.  I&#8217;m talking about the whole site now, not the meager message boards.  I have heard before that the NHL manages the sites, blah blah blah, but if you look at other teams sites, while they all have the same basic look, about 20 other teams have more streamlined and refined sites.  It&#8217;s odd that someone from an internet background and is fan centered wouldn&#8217;t see the value in making the web site- and the fan interactions- better.  As I said, people are usually childish in the way they present issues to you- but that does not mean an issue is make believe.</p>
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		<title>By: blueliner34</title>
		<link>http://www.tedstake.com/2009/07/01/dumb-and-dumber-2/comment-page-1/#comment-32032</link>
		<dc:creator>blueliner34</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yawn.....abh should have been nuked years ago</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yawn&#8230;..abh should have been nuked years ago</p>
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		<title>By: langway4ever</title>
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		<dc:creator>langway4ever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is amazing. Why do people think that they are "entitled" to anything on these boards?  Do you pay for them??  How many sports owners converse with their fans?  The fact that Ted takes the time to view these boards and actually respond is incredibly generous.  Those of you that think you are "entitled" need to go away. If you are upset about season tickets being gone??   Well you had 34 years to overcome that problem.  Now suddenly you want tickets??  Just a few short years ago you were the ones that allowed the tickets to get snatched up by Penguin, Flyer, and Ranger fans.  Ted is the best owner in sports.  He is a true fan and lets his Gm and coaches do their job while he does his. Enjoy the fact that he cares enough to respond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is amazing. Why do people think that they are &#8220;entitled&#8221; to anything on these boards?  Do you pay for them??  How many sports owners converse with their fans?  The fact that Ted takes the time to view these boards and actually respond is incredibly generous.  Those of you that think you are &#8220;entitled&#8221; need to go away. If you are upset about season tickets being gone??   Well you had 34 years to overcome that problem.  Now suddenly you want tickets??  Just a few short years ago you were the ones that allowed the tickets to get snatched up by Penguin, Flyer, and Ranger fans.  Ted is the best owner in sports.  He is a true fan and lets his Gm and coaches do their job while he does his. Enjoy the fact that he cares enough to respond.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I wrote what I did earlier, I had no idea this all related to message board drama.  Ted, please.  Focus on important matters.  Pittsburgh won the Cup.  You've won ONE playoff series in a decade.  Focus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I wrote what I did earlier, I had no idea this all related to message board drama.  Ted, please.  Focus on important matters.  Pittsburgh won the Cup.  You&#8217;ve won ONE playoff series in a decade.  Focus!</p>
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		<title>By: Very Late, Little to Say, But&#8230; &#171; Capital Spirit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Very Late, Little to Say, But&#8230; &#171; Capital Spirit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] keeping an eye on the Capitals Message Boards&#8211;what&#8217;s left of them, that is&#8211;and took offense at some of the snide comments directed his [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] keeping an eye on the Capitals Message Boards&#8211;what&#8217;s left of them, that is&#8211;and took offense at some of the snide comments directed his [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SlavaKM</title>
		<link>http://www.tedstake.com/2009/07/01/dumb-and-dumber-2/comment-page-1/#comment-31992</link>
		<dc:creator>SlavaKM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woo!
I'm semi-famous.
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woo!<br />
I&#8217;m semi-famous.<br />
 <img src='http://www.tedstake.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ZenReaper</title>
		<link>http://www.tedstake.com/2009/07/01/dumb-and-dumber-2/comment-page-1/#comment-31973</link>
		<dc:creator>ZenReaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know where some of you people get your sense of entitlement.  "Tell us what's going on or we'll slag you and your company" isn't exactly a good way to get what you want.  So they won't tell you why?  Why cares?  You already found another forum.  Move on.  If the administration wants to keep the Caps board focused on hockey, respect that.  It's been a week or so.  Obviously your needs to talk about porn and music aren't going to be satisfied in that forum.

As far as the board comment, I'd hardly consider sarcasm offensive or uninformed, as it's sarcasm directed to an audience of a couple of hundred, all of which have the demonstrated combined IQ of a head of cabbage.

Rise above it.  Believe it or not, it's perfectly possible to ignore the truly ignorant without it reflecting negatively on you.  Jumping into the mud to wrestle a pig means the pig wins no matter who ends up on top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know where some of you people get your sense of entitlement.  &#8220;Tell us what&#8217;s going on or we&#8217;ll slag you and your company&#8221; isn&#8217;t exactly a good way to get what you want.  So they won&#8217;t tell you why?  Why cares?  You already found another forum.  Move on.  If the administration wants to keep the Caps board focused on hockey, respect that.  It&#8217;s been a week or so.  Obviously your needs to talk about porn and music aren&#8217;t going to be satisfied in that forum.</p>
<p>As far as the board comment, I&#8217;d hardly consider sarcasm offensive or uninformed, as it&#8217;s sarcasm directed to an audience of a couple of hundred, all of which have the demonstrated combined IQ of a head of cabbage.</p>
<p>Rise above it.  Believe it or not, it&#8217;s perfectly possible to ignore the truly ignorant without it reflecting negatively on you.  Jumping into the mud to wrestle a pig means the pig wins no matter who ends up on top.</p>
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